August 1, 2008 - 2:34pm
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Jersey City ballot initiative battle not over

One of Jersey City Councilman Steve Fulop's two ballot initiatives suffered a severe blow earlier this week by a prominent city official, but Fulop said the move has energized his base.

"Yesterday I sent out that email letting people know about it. We got 60 new donors, 25 new volunteers and we're just starting," he said.

A move by Jersey City Corporation Counsel Bill Matsikoudis on Tuesday sparked outrage in an already politically charged atmosphere. Fulop had just turned in 1,800 signatures for two ballot initiatives: one which would enact new anti pay-to-play rules, and another that would bar council members from receiving more than one public salary (six of the nine council members have more than one taxpayer funded salary).

Through talks with Municipal Clerk Robert Byrne and two employees from the corporation counsel's office, Fulop said he was led to believe he only needed to turn in 1,506 signatures, basing the number on the 10% of the voters who turned out in last year's general election.

Fulop collected about 3,000 signatures for each initiative, but held off turning in extra so as not to trigger a special election, which would cost $250,000. It would also make passing the initiatives more difficult, since it would be a low-turnout special election where HCDO could easily mobilize its supporters, as opposed to a general election with presidential candidates on top of the ticket.

On Tuesday, as Fulop was replacing illegible and invalid signatures in order to get the initiatives on the ballot, Matsikoudis told Byrne that the Faulkner Act doesn't apply to ordinances involving salaries. Rather, he said, the number of signatures collected should be 10% of all the city's registered voters, meaning Fulop would have to collect 12,227.

"I will tell you that we were willfully misled, and we have documentation on it, by the corporation counsel's office," said Fulop. "They told us how many signatures we needed countless times... Whether it was the petitions, the format of the petitions, the dates we needed to turn it in by in order to qualify for what and not cost the taxpayers money. We followed that exactly. And in the 11th hour and 59th minute all of a sudden to spring this on us."

The politics of the dispute lurk barely beneath the surface. Matsikoudis works for Healy, who Fulop intends to challenge in next year's mayoral election. Healy, along with the rest of the city council, is dead set against the reforms, which Fulop, 31, admits also serve as a way to build his name identification and reputation outside of his downtown base.

If Municipal Clerk Robert Byrne rules against Fulop, expect a court challenge.

"Our hope is that it gets certified and we don't need to go to court," said Fulop. "Is Matsikoudis going to try to sue? I don't know."
Matsikoudis said that while Fulop did talk to officials in his office, he only discussed the anti-pay to play initiative - not the one at issue.

"Whatever occurred, apparently other people simply weren't aware that this statute covered it," he said. "We can't help but follow it once it was discovered."

Fulop's side will make its case shortly in a written brief to Byrne. James Carroll, a police officer and attorney who plans to run on a slate with Fulop next year, said that, misleading information notwithstanding, the number of signatures on a petition is, for the most part, a formality. Having 3,000 signatures clearly demonstrates that enough people are concerned with the issue to make it worthy of a public vote.

in the past have reinforced that notion, said Carroll. When State Sen. Sandra Cunningham used the wrong petition forms in the run-up to her last year's primary against Lou Manzo, a judge ruled that election laws should be interpreted liberally so as not to "deprive voters of their franchise." Former City Councilwoman Melissa Holloway, who passed away last month, eventually won a state superior court decision to allow her to run against Healy in 2005, despite being short of the required number of signatures.

"If they do this, it sends the exact opposite message to get people involved in the legal process," said Carroll. "Generally that's going to be our argument."

Matsikoudis wouldn't speculate on what will happen if Byrne rules in Fulop's favor.

"There are a number of ways things could end up I court," he said. "There could be a lawsuit from a citizen. Who knows?"

Matt Friedman is a PolitickerNJ.com Reporter and can be reached via email at matt@politicsnj.com.

Comments

Fulop's a smart guy but...


This issue makes him look like a total idiot.

What this does is mark him as a "reformer" -- not a way to win an election in that town.

The last non-incumbent Jersey City Mayoral candidate to get 50% of the vote running as a "reformer" was John V. Kenny in 1949.

Fulop may have a lot of issues against Healy but this is not one of them.

08/01/08 3:45 pm

You can do that?


We must be nuts not to take an advantage of such opportunity - "(six of the nine council members have more than one taxpayer funded salary)." New Jersey is the heaven! I just wonder what is wrong with those three remaining council members? Are they nuts?

08/01/08 3:47 pm

Fulop's own fault


Fulop really should have researched the law and signature requirements before he got started.

Its easy for him to blame Matsikoudis and the HCDO machine now, but geez, how hard would it be to have a lawyer research the requirements??

He has no one to blame but himself.

08/01/08 4:26 pm

What a shame


What a shame, Fulop and Carroll make a mistake and they point the blame at others.

Carroll is way over his head with Election law, he should stick to wills and house closings and positioning himself for an election run next year. Carroll was an insider who never got everything he wanted so he jumped ship and went with Fulop. Sourgrapes Carroll.

One really has to question why all of a sudden Fulop is trying to push this referendum right before his election next year?

08/01/08 6:00 pm

In Court for Sure


This one will be decided in the Court for sure. It will give Fulop daily headlines as he blames the HCDO. The local papers will love this.

Many of the votes in JC who are energized by the idea of change in Novermber might just pass this initiative.

Very interesting developments,

08/01/08 8:12 pm

due diligence...not


fulop and his betterjc attorney didn't do their homework and got outmaneuvered by the so-called idiots they look down their noses at. hudson county politics is a contact sport and fulop keeps getting his head handed to him. and he thinks he's ready to be mayor? he better concentrate on keeping his council seat.

08/01/08 8:50 pm

Fulops mistake was taking


Fulops mistake was taking the word of the city clerk who told him exactly what to do. The healy people interpret the law as they see it. Councilwomen in newark gets arrested for the same thing Healy was Arrested for and they say "thats got nothing to do with Jerry" Fulops can turn this around because the people of Jersey City are talking about how city hall Cheated him. Remember Healys oath to the city "Don't cheat,Don't Lie,Don't Steal They broke every one......

08/01/08 9:53 pm

fulop's mistake


was underestimating his opponent and massively overestimating his own organization and abilities. it took him and his worshippers months to collect 2000 signatures in a city of 250,000? live and learn stevie.

08/02/08 12:27 pm

Fulop's mistake? The mistake


Fulop's mistake?

The mistake comes from City Clerk Byrnes. Byrnes gave a resident of Jersey City wrong information. It was his mistake.

If Byrnes cannot do his job as a city clerk then he needs to step down from his position. A mistake this big is unacceptable. This is just like a teller being short from his cash register.

Byrnes's mistake, so he should fix it by letting it go on the ballot. Put it up in November and let the people of Jersey City decide not these political paid lawyers.

4,000 + residents have shown interest in this, it's the right thing to do.

08/02/08 12:38 pm

4000?


2000 x 2 petitions.

sorry, but ignorance of the law is no excuse. fulop should have checked it out regardless of what the clerk told him.

now he's pouting, collecting money, and threatening to sue.

he'll make a great mayor.

08/02/08 4:25 pm

Check with a Lawyer


Everytime i get answers from the City Clerk? the courts will agree with Fulop as soon as the case get's out of Hudson County it's Holloway 2005 again!

08/03/08 4:18 pm

Holloway 2005 again!


You mean sue to get on the ballot, then lose by a landslide?

I agree.

Fulop has to learn the hard way, it's not enough being right. Of course he's right, but with every incumbent from sandy on down opposing it, and having the hcdo at their disposal to gotv against it, it'll never pass.

He should have been focusing on building an organization instead of building his image. Now, that's all he has and it won't help him in November or May.

Just ask Cory Booker.

08/03/08 4:27 pm